Well Dude, there are just people out there that don't like conflict. They don't like any friction or criticism. There are also people who defend the management of the mountain to a blind fervor. Those are the people who rub me. Stan is on one side of the spectrum. He truly is a kind person who just wants to ski and have as little fiction as possible. I have met him and I fully understand where he comes from. There are others who I don't know and have never made the effort to even come down to the CR and have a drink with us and understand who we are and where our heads are at. Those people would never understand that we actually love skiing here, spend most of our time here and pretty much live the Sugarbush life. Criticizing the Mountain is like getting on a sibling or best friend. It's not done to be mean, it is done because you think they can do better. I think the banter to some extent is good. it's lets the Mountain know that we are watching and will not be fooled and if we are not then most likely most other are not. Yes some of this is foolish and I do not have any overall solutions for the foolishness.
Trouble with you is the trouble with me,
Got two good eyes but we still don’t see!
fwiw- I'm going to start getting real crabby if we dont get some serious snow soon.
Well the beauty of this is I never take anything I see on the internet too seriously. In the past week I've had 8 relatives that live in foreign countries pass away leaving me huge inheritances. I'm rich suckers. They'll all be wiring it into my account through a bank in Uganda tomorrow. Rounds are on me.
I mean the fact that it's seen as ranting to think about if we had a time machine (not initiated by me by the way. Just piggy backing) and how cool would it be if the lifts were brought up higher in some places and other things done when the mountain was cut and lifts put in is a bit weird. I mean P.S. There are no time machines. Although it is 2015 so perhaps Marty is going to show up on my lawn in 72 nanoseconds. Jumping gigawatts. There he is!!!!
Anyways people shouldn't get too worked up about what they read on the web. We're all a bunch of punters that don't know much of anything, but the web makes us geniuses. Go figure. (statement not the poster profile).
Have you two met? I know for a fact that you have been drinking in the CR Pub about 10 feet away form each other. HA!
Trouble with you is the trouble with me,
Got two good eyes but we still don’t see!
Not sure you've accounted in your mind for the space created by the removal of the mtn ops buildings, though you curiously reference it below. Between that extra space plus some inventive re-grading, I'm quite sure they can make it all work.
Old news. Not changing any time soon. Call me when you cut a 6 figure check to SB and then let me know how you feel about this issue.And I know clay brookers need to have first tracks on top of a constitutional right to not have to take more than 75 paces to a lift, to not have north be the spring venue even when it makes sense, etc and so on, but that still doesn't make this the "right" choice. Best of a bad situation? Maybe.
Can't disagree here. They whiffed - badly. But that's not changing in this lifetime.It's probably too late to move Timbers and CB back about 300' to have a normal view of the hill and ease of getting around as a skier that other resorts have the luxury of. The whole base configuration is such that you'd think that Sugarbush was in a box canyon like Telluride.
Hawk covered this well. There is no shortage of locations to move these functions. I'm not even sure why you'd be upset about this.Now we're going to lose another couple of buildings that house patrol and equipment. Where is that stuff supposed to go?
Not even sure what to do with this. It's a mix of some good, but impractical observations (Claybrook location), expensive ideas for consideration (RFID), and ill-informed ranting (Low-E guns).All these people write stories about going back in time and preventing WWII. Makes sense, but I think I'd make a few stops along the way, first to put CB next to Sugarbush Village and then to convince the maker of "Low-E" guns to do something useful like basket weaving instead. Possibly drop a polite suggestion in the bush comment box about RFID being a better option than the hand scanners. Or at least, have one person scan while other people make the lines move.
Right - we are the veritable mouthpiece of SB on this forum. I'd say we are doing something right b/c both sides of this debate are complaining, but the traffic/activity on this forum doesn't exactly back that up.Now everyone get back to the kissing the status quo's butt like Killington hasn't done a 180 in the past ten years. When Jay got a new Tram and waterpark. And I wonder how Smuggs is going to look when Okemo or Windham gets their hands on it and puts HSQ's from base to summit. They only have ratniks so far but at least they feed them a lot of diesel.
Check your meds.Sugarbush has done a lot too, like watch almost every decent restaurant go out of business in the valley while the mountain somehow scooped up all the real estate on the access road so we can enjoy $15 cheesesteaks in moms basement at the hill.
Not a bad idea as I have met Hawk, been conversing with Howie for years i think wo ever meeting & i think that such a meeting might be about the only way i would venture into the crp; especially since they raised all the food prices to the Timbers level.
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Tin, I think you know that spring skiing length of season has very little to do with elevation anymore. Just look at Superstar. If they concentrated on Steins with more snowmaking all year I bet they could rival Killington on the Length of season. Just pile it up. And with the new quad they will have no issues with lines or the speed of the lift. Because of the setup at the Bush, we will never have a good viewing venue of the actual skiing but there are certainly things they can do to make the spring skiing better. I have never liked the Mt. Ellen spring set up. Even when I skied here in the 80's when they actually ended the season there. I guess my perspective is a bumpers perspective from Sunday River. White Heat is what I grew up on. Skiing WH until June some years was a treat. We had a portable grill and never came down to the lodge. It was a huge production every weekend with about 100 people lugging food and beer up to the trail. Sugarbush to me is a total upgrade as far as the ease of the logistics. But I want a long straight trail with some steepness to pound bumps in the spring. Steins is just about perfect. Even better than WH and Superstar as far as steep consistent vertical. So the only thing we need to work on is the Food and party piece.
Trouble with you is the trouble with me,
Got two good eyes but we still don’t see!
I will have to introduce you to Mntman, bumpcrasher and Stan. I bet you will say that you have seen them all on the hill and in the bar. As far as meeting, I am at the CR almost every Saturday afternoon unless the skiing is better and I can ski back to my condo. How about the rest of you anonymous lurkers? Staying behind the veil or coming out for a beer?
Trouble with you is the trouble with me,
Got two good eyes but we still don’t see!
I'll look for you at beer:30 sometime...but not this weekend. Perhaps we should wear masks (with at least a sipping hole) to protect our anonymity.
I am up for a brew; I think it's a great idea. Not sure if I'll be up this coming weekend or not -- temps combined with a lack of recent snow are a little discouraging right now.
I won't be back up until the weekend of the 24th sadly. It may have been we've been only 10 feet away, but my vision only goes 9 feet and drops sharply after a few captain and cokes. I'm up for a beer with anyone. I'm an equal opportunist when it comes to drinking. Except for Llamas. Filthy animals. Won't drink with them. Not ever again. Well unless they're buying. Then maybe one.
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