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    Stein's....Good and Bad

    It was great to see us building spring depths on Steins this weekend. Good snow to ski on especially this morning. But I just don't know how they can blow wet, cake your goggles snow, when it is 5 degrees. A more adjustments would have been nice.

    Glad they allowed us to hike to Castlerock. Now hopefully we get new snow so that the chair can run.



    Off to do my snow dance.

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    Agreed. I hate to say it, but I've literally never seen worse snowmaking than at Sugarbush.

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    Well guys, I skied it multiples times and didn't get wet. Arc1, I couldn't disagree with you more. A few of the surface guns at the top skier's left were wet for a brief period early Sunday morning until the guys made their "gun runs" and adjusted the air. You are in the minority opinion on this one. There were three great days on Stein's over the holdiay week, and it was still great today.

    FIngers crssed Tree that tonight with bring in enough to spin the lift at CR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by win View Post
    Well guys, I skied it multiples times and didn't get wet. Arc1, I couldn't disagree with you more. A few of the surface guns at the top skier's left were wet for a brief period early Sunday morning until the guys made their "gun runs" and adjusted the air. You are in the minority opinion on this one. There were three great days on Stein's over the holdiay week, and it was still great today.

    FIngers crssed Tree that tonight with bring in enough to spin the lift at CR!
    Fair enough, I'm glad they got it fixed. I skied it early twice and was blind after the first 2 turns. I didn't even know it was possible to blow wet snow at those temps. Gotta say though Win, I am not at all a minority regarding the snowmaking on the hill, by a long shot. The quality is often excellent, but there are far too many misses. I understand the limitations we have and the economic reality you face. I'm really glad you are focused on sustaining and improving this place. However, in comparison to any other resort even remotely 'like' us, we are way, way behind on the snowmaking front, in quality and quantity.
    Please note my liberal use of 'we', I'm a believer.

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    I believe arc1 is right on with his comment here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewbarka View Post
    I believe arc1 is right on with his comment here.
    Regardless of who is right about "our" snowmaking quality (perhaps the truth lies somewhere in the middle), I think "we" are extraordinarily lucky to have an owner who comes on here and discusses tough issues. Time and again he has engaged constructively and openly with various critics (constructive and otherwise) and regardless of differences of opinion, I think we can be pretty darn sure he "gets" it and is doing absolutely the best he can. This is very rare either in ski area operation or, really, in any walk of life, and we are very fortunate.

    Now if the skies would just unload on us and give us the March we deserve!

    Rope

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    [QUOTE=arc1;117898]Fair enough, I'm glad they got it fixed. I skied it early twice and was blind after the first 2 turns. I didn't even know it was possible to blow wet snow at those temps. Gotta say though Win, I am not at all a minority regarding the snowmaking on the hill, by a long shot. The quality is often excellent, but there are far too many misses. I understand the limitations we have and the economic reality you face. I'm really glad you are focused on sustaining and improving this place. However, in comparison to any other resort even remotely 'like' us, we are way, way behind on the snowmaking front, in quality and quantity.
    Please note my liberal use of 'we', I'm a be snow the Mtn has been blowing.

    Arc1 - maybe I don't ski enough other areas to make an honest assessment, but WTF are you talking about??? Given the shit weather we had in January, I have no complaints with the snow the Mtn has been blowing. We went from complete bullet proof (just short of a complete washout) after the massive rain storm to really nice PP on most of the main trails - this all happened in 1 week. Not sure what your expectations are after weather like this, but I honestly do not have any complaints and was impressed with the speed of recovery that took place. Hats off to the snow makers,... hopefully you get some help from mother nature this weekend!
    Last edited by djd66; 02-20-2013 at 09:54 PM.

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    Stein's....Good and Bad

    Agree with you Win. I did multiple laps on Stein's each day over the long weekend and it was amazing snow. It was still awesome by the end of Monday.

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    OMG will the snowmaking debate never end this year. 'nothing like a nasty thaw and month long snow drought to bring out the worst in all of us.
    looks like its snowing on the webcam. any local reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HowieT2 View Post
    OMG will the snowmaking debate never end this year. 'nothing like a nasty thaw and month long snow drought to bring out the worst in all of us.
    looks like its snowing on the webcam. any local reports.
    HA!!!! Yes Howie, the debate is always relivant and again I will say it's all perspective. As far as the Bush goes the Snow making was pretty good this year. They did make a few mistakes but overall the quantity was good and the quality was very good at times. But if you compare them to the best snow operations, well lets just say it like comparing a Pro team to a College team. We just don't have the infrastruture, dollars and ability to produce that kind of product. It is snowing again. I will be up for the first time in 3 weeks. Got stung on my west trip but enjoyed the people and the beautiful location. Looking forward to getting out. See you soon.
    Trouble with you is the trouble with me,
    Got two good eyes but we still don’t see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    ... Got stung on my west trip but enjoyed the people and the beautiful location. ...
    Hi Hawk

    What does "got stung" mean?

    Isn't skiing out west always perfect?

    Rope

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    Quote Originally Posted by RopeTow View Post
    Hi Hawk

    What does "got stung" mean?

    Isn't skiing out west always perfect?

    Rope
    We were in Tahoe and we only got 1 storm for about 6". Most of the time we had temps starting at 25 and ending the day in the low 40's with Blue bird skies. It was actually really good skiing in the afternoons and the apree at the Cham at Squaw is big fun. We met some of the big name people. Man those guys are f-in nuts straight lining everything in site. So yes it was fun but you go out west for big pow. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    ...but you go out west for big pow. Right?
    No argument from me.

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    I hear ya hawk. Just returned from Alta - missed a 33 inch dump by a week. Skiing was sun baked until day 3 when we got about 6 inches. Now? 16 in the last 24 hours. Figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    HA!!!! Yes Howie, the debate is always relivant and again I will say it's all perspective. As far as the Bush goes the Snow making was pretty good this year. They did make a few mistakes but overall the quantity was good and the quality was very good at times. But if you compare them to the best snow operations, well lets just say it like comparing a Pro team to a College team. We just don't have the infrastruture, dollars and ability to produce that kind of product. It is snowing again. I will be up for the first time in 3 weeks. Got stung on my west trip but enjoyed the people and the beautiful location. Looking forward to getting out. See you soon.
    blah blah blah! fwiw-i thought they made significantly more snow and later than I can ever remember.
    cr is open. woods are back in play. im heading up tonight. joy.

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