Sunday Update

[win]

Unfortunately, Monday is not going to be in the cards, but Tuesday most likely is. The top of Rim Run needs a lot more cover, and it is still fairly windy up there. We are getting good cover down on Elbow and by Tuesday we hope to have Upper Rim Run, Rim Run B and Elbow and possibly Looking Good and then begin the march down to the base. If you see some skiers on Elbow tomorrow it will be some ASRA racers who are here for a week of race camp and we are going to attempt to transport them so that they can get some training on Elbow tomorrow if possbile. It is not safe, enough, however, to let any unescorted unload off the Summit until we have better cover.

[Lostone]

Well, I just got back from a walk and can confirm the windy part. Took me two miles to get warm.

Too bad about Monday. I'm beginning to think you won't let me ski until I get all my inside chores done. :cry: :lol:

We'll look toward Tuesday, and if some people want to come help me do my inside chores, we might be able to ski, this season... * (He says, with a totally innocent Tom Sawyerish expression on his face.) * :wink:

[Mike_451]

Thanks for the update Win, we appreciate all the hard work, and the updates and inside scoop as things progress. I guess a Sunday or Monday opening was pending natural snowfall, which hasn't quite happened yet 8)

You guys got it tough, and its pretty clear that yall are doing every thing you can.

Anyway as Loestone pointed out in another thread, this will all be history in a few days :)

Hapy trails....... soon enough :roll:

[ski_resort_observer]

FWIW checking around the resorts in NE, there are alot of resorts doing the same thing.

[Mike_451]

except K-Mart (belch)

Just check the Sugarbush Site, I guess you guys have plans to update it?

[BushMogulMaster]

Thanks for the update, Win.




Just check the Sugarbush Site, I guess you guys have plans to update it?

It's getting taken care of... I know the right people to talk to!

[ski_resort_observer]

except K-Mart (belch)


Here's a TR from someone who skied kmart today, the comment "choked with people" would describe my feelings regarding skiing there right now.
http://forums.alpinezone.com/11649-killington-december-3-2006-a.html#post126312

[Tin Woodsman]

except K-Mart (belch)


Here's a TR from someone who skied kmart today, the comment "choked with people" would describe my feelings regarding skiing there right now.
http://forums.alpinezone.com/11649-killington-december-3-2006-a.html#post126312
Yes, K-Mart sucks, but they were open. Choked with people is likely a consequence of everyone else being closed. SB, for all the pomp and circumstance, would love to be choked with paying customers.

Just sayin'.

[Lostone]

Don't know that is true.

Win, or one of the other owners would have to say what their thoughts are, but I know when the discussion of what to do with the Valley House chair was up, I heard Win say he didn't want uphill capacity to exceed downhill capacity, which is K_mart's problem.

Yes, they want more paying customers, but there is a limit to where people can enjoy themselves. I've skied K_mart a number of times, when it was above that limit. I don't go there, anymore. I'm not the only one. :roll:

[ski_resort_observer]

tin, diferent strokes for diferent folks. I would rather have no experience than a bad experience when it comes to skiing. Comments from some of the other TR's..... blinded by snoguns, left cause I was afraid of getting run into, mud and rocks, you get the picture.....enjoy!

[Tin Woodsman]

tin, diferent strokes for diferent folks. I would rather have no experience than a bad experience when it comes to skiing. Comments from some of the other TR's..... blinded by snoguns, left cause I was afraid of getting run into, mud and rocks, you get the picture.....enjoy!

I'm not saying it was a fabulous experience. don't get me wrong - I'm definitely more of a quality over quantity guy myself. But I find it a little ironic the smugness being exhibited here about what a lousy experience it was at K-Mart when SB wasn't even open. Again, having too many paying customers this time of year is a problem I'm sure Win would like to have. Not at any cost mind you, but it IS a good problem to have. Though I'm no fan of mgmt at ASC/K-Mart, I give them credit for committing to opening top to KBL - at 2500' feet in elevation this is about 500' lower than the mid flats area at North. It's impressive no mater what you may thing of that place.

If SB starts limiting ticket sales, then maybe you guys can start snickering a little more, but until then, maybe not so much.

[Mike_451]

Ok to be fair, thanksgiving weekend Sugarbush was a little bit crowded, the cover was deserving of rock skis, and well there were some 5 minute liftlines, and their was no ICE in the glen house, instead you had to go outside and fill your cup with snow. On wednesday the Chilly which was normaly great was as watered down as it could be, Yuck..... Certainly worth the 10 bucks for lunch.

Monday and Tuesday were not crowded, and there wasn't much snow, not to say that things weren't fun, but K-Mart I hear was nicly groomed top to botom.

And I did get plowed into by a snowboarder gaping through the bumps on upper rimrun, bue he did apologize, and I apologized to him too.

Ok...... There...... SkiMRV.COM Fair and Balanced.

By the way, I hope on Tuesday there is some Ice in the soda fountain at the Glen House! And my bro did get the chilly over the weekend and he say it was fine.

[ski_resort_observer]

I don't think I would call it smugness or snickering..my purpose of linking the trip reports was to simply show being open vs not open is not always the best way to go. Also, I would be willing to bet that only a few of the skiers at kmart yesterday were paying customers but All41 pass holders. I'm all for having the resort open for the pass holders whenever possible but in this case IMHO it maybe wasn't a great idea...A for effort tho.

[Tin Woodsman]

I don't think I would call it smugness or snickering..my purpose of linking the trip reports was to simply show being open vs not open is not always the best way to go. Also, I would be willing to bet that only a few of the skiers at kmart yesterday were paying customers but All41 pass holders. I'm all for having the resort open for the pass holders whenever possible but in this case IMHO it maybe wasn't a great idea...A for effort tho.

But your posts imply that SB could have opened if it wanted to, and by the comments we've seen from Win, that doesn't appear to be the case, especially on the the top of Rim Run.

A for effort indeed, and that's all you can ask for this time of year with this type of weather.

[ski_resort_observer]

I don't think I would call it smugness or snickering..my purpose of linking the trip reports was to simply show being open vs not open is not always the best way to go. Also, I would be willing to bet that only a few of the skiers at kmart yesterday were paying customers but All41 pass holders. I'm all for having the resort open for the pass holders whenever possible but in this case IMHO it maybe wasn't a great idea...A for effort tho.

But your posts imply that SB could have opened if it wanted to, and by the comments we've seen from Win, that doesn't appear to be the case, especially on the the top of Rim Run.

A for effort indeed, and that's all you can ask for this time of year with this type of weather.

I checked over all the posts on this thread and really don't see anywhere someone implied that the Bush could have opened if it wanted to. Secondly, none of us except Win and the other Sugarbush managers, are in any position to be able to make that determination.

I was really simply responding to your comment "Yes, K-Mart sucks, but they were open. Choked with people is likely a consequence of everyone else being closed. SB, for all the pomp and circumstance, would love to be choked with paying customers" which I read as saying kmart bettered the Bush simply because they were open and I am saying...not nessesarily.

BTW, I don't think kmart sucks, definately not my cup of tea but know alot of skiers who love the place...but not yesterday.

[Plowboy]

Win, you might want to update the Weather Report. It still says friday and rain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get rid of the R word please!!

[HowieT2]

I went to K-mart the day after Thanksgiving mostly because they had significantly more terrain open and it saved me an hours drive each way. It was skiing and therefore it was good, much better than sitting at my in-laws. However, it is a totally different place than SB. I prefer SB because of the terrain, crowds and ambiance. I would never think of buying a place at k-mart, yet I have a friend with a place there, who thinks I'm crazy to drive "all the way" up to SB. The point being, SV, it appears, is operating the mountain to market the R.E. It's not about competing with k-mart to sell the most lift tickets. Certainly when the weather is like this, we all long for being to able to ski, like they are at k-mart.

[Tin Woodsman]

I checked over all the posts on this thread and really don't see anywhere someone implied that the Bush could have opened if it wanted to. Secondly, none of us except Win and the other Sugarbush managers, are in any position to be able to make that determination.

I was really simply responding to your comment "Yes, K-Mart sucks, but they were open. Choked with people is likely a consequence of everyone else being closed. SB, for all the pomp and circumstance, would love to be choked with paying customers" which I read as saying kmart bettered the Bush simply because they were open and I am saying...not nessesarily.

BTW, I don't think kmart sucks, definately not my cup of tea but know alot of skiers who love the place...but not yesterday.

Not my cup of tea either. I just don't see the point in pointing out that they were open but that it probably sucked b/c of this or that first hand report. Far more important is that they were open. You know, the whole adage about a bad day skiing is better than a good day at work and all that. It seems obvious that one of the reasons they were so crowded is b/c they were, in fact, open, whereas almost all their main competitors weren't. So hats off to them, no?

As for implying whether SB could have been open or not, when you say things like:

I would rather have no experience than a bad experience when it comes to skiing. Comments from some of the other TR's..... blinded by snoguns, left cause I was afraid of getting run into, mud and rocks, you get the picture.....enjoy! my read was that you are saying K-Mart has a significantly lower standard for opening than what SB does.

Whatever - not really worth arguing about. Point is - how about a hats of to those guys who have a decent amount of terrain open in the wake of some of the worst early season weather we've seen in years? We'll have plenty of time to gloat about how much better SB is once we're actually open. :lol: :lol:

[ski_resort_observer]

Yup, done beating this dead horse :D

[Lostone]

Ok... I'll take a few swings at that reclining pony. :lol:

What's that, horsey? You're not dead yet? Well, we'll see how much life you have left in you! :lol:


my read was that you are saying K-Mart has a significantly lower standard for opening than what SB does.

What I would say is that K_mart has a significantly lower standard of customer service.

I've not skied there in years.

I did ski there quite a lot. I have over 150 days in there, most of which were in three years. One day I came to the decision that most of the people on that mountain were obnoxious. That went for the people who worked there and those that skied there.

It is what happens when you cram 300 people on a hundred yards of trail. And they do it all the time! :x I've seen fights break out there. I've been hit a number of times. When you are in the lodges, you are fighting for space and a place in the lines.

I don't go there any more. :?

And I'm not done with you yet, young man!


You know, the whole adage about a bad day skiing is better than a good day at work and all that. On a bad day of skiing, you can break every bone in your body. A good day of work... not so much. :shock: . :lol:

Someone else's turn at 'ol Trigger. :lol:

[Plowboy]

Ha, a good day at work for me is a good day of sking for you. http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/MX51/santa.jpg


http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/MX51/beatingdeadhorse.jpg

[Mike_451]

Dang, this keeps geting more entertaining, by the post!

[Lostone]

Not to the poor horsey. :shock:

:lol:

[Mike_451]

see what did I say :lol:

[noski]

Click on-and-off the horses- there are four of them. http://svt.se/hogafflahage/hogafflaHage_site/Kor/hestekor.swf YOU can be the quartet director....

[skiladi]

I was at K on Sunday. My addiction runs pretty deep. I got in some good turns. Met up with some friends. Do I prefer more terrain , real snow and less traffic? Sure. But it was skiing and I only got hit once. lol. Gotta love it when the challenge is to not be run over or to not run someone else over who doesn't seem to know how to straightline on an exit trail that's only 12' wide and the best snow takes up 12" of the trail! :roll:

Glad my hubby didn't drive up to the 'bush for Monday. I called to see if they would reopen and was told it was a definite but I guess not. ; {