Don't believe him Treeskier!

He just wants you to stop dancing so he can get the credit when the ship comes in... so to speak.

No, I really want him to stop. He is bad luck. I will not take credit for anything. I am doing my own private ocd snow thing.

Back to lurking

Bubba wrote:

smootharc wrote: Vermont Winter Guide (or some similar title) in the free aisle at Paradise Deli last weekend. . There is no Free aisle at Paradise. Terry's Lookin' for you.

Yea from Key West for the winter. LOLOLOLOL

No need to get ice from stores, just go to the Waterbury with a loader and dump truck. Thats what I did for the Rail Jam at the Big Picture.

WTF if I can't plow it might as well haul it.

Heh, I didn't think about that.............

Though seriously, just an idea, what about building a tent like structure at the base, controling the humidity and temperature, blasting snow inside of it, and then taking it up on the mountain with a front end loader? I don't have enough technical knowlage to know if it is a stupid idea, but then again supposedly because nobody does it leades me to belive that is its a dumb idea......

It seems like it would make sense to deploy low e guns everywhere possible when the conditions make sense. Place them on the trails that you never blast until january, and start off with regular guns early season to estabilish an inital base, and then get out the low E guns for when the temperatures are colder to resurface those trails, as needed, and to establish a deep base.

Done, but you don't need a loader, you just have to go to Dubia.

The hope every year for most resorts in the NE is that by January you don't need any snowmaking. By the way they are building a "snow dome" near the Meadowlands in Jersey.

Apperently when they opened it though, they had to make snow for an entire month........
Although because it is refrigerated I guess you don't really need to make snow after you open, just groom the heck out of it to keep it from getting icy, so I guess that negates the need for any real snowmaking.

I wonder though, about having a snow production facilitiy and moving it about with a front end loader. What about setting up a tent over lets say Easy Rider durring the summer, having year round indoor sking. The idea, plow all the remaining snow off pushover down onto it in april, and erect the tent. Refrigerate, and produce snow as necessary, set up some small table top jumps, and misclenious rails, Starting in october, start producing large ammounts of snow as to completly fill the tent, then take it down in november, and push it up pushover, down sugarbear road, and use it to open the gate house chair early in the season for beginer skiers, and be the only resort in Vermont to offer year round skiing.

Just a stupid dumb @!## idea, but I wonder if it would work.......

I think I might start a company and manufacture snow durring the winter, store it in a super insulated "snow barn" and sell it off in the summer for rail jams etc...

Heck we could all go to Dubai and ski, but I guess by the time we get their Sugarbush will be open agian.......
O wait killington is open thanks to their massive snowmaking system.
At least SB gave it their all and tried their best......


How about Making a giant fan gun the size of a large wind tunnel and blasting the entire mountain......
Super Mega Snow Cannon or something, ASC would call it a Super Sneaux Blaster......

Man you guys are desperate. I have to say this weather really blows especially on the heels of last winter. I mean it's not even a close call rain/snow. It is downright tropical in the northeast. Hopefully, we'll wake up tomorrow and this will all be a bad dream.

BTW- I saw a show on the indoor ski facility in Madrid and they do make snow so that it's nice and fresh every day and groomed. I'll believe they'll get that one done in NJ when I see it. The developer is having financial trouble.

Ironic isn't it?
All these years we used diesel generators so we could make snow.
Diesel exhaust =global warming=no snow.

Hey Bushmogulmaster, thanks for the insights on PSI and that magic number, 139k gallons of water per acre foot of snow. Good stuff.

Mike 451, surf the internet for info on the prior owners of tenney mtn in NH. A company from japan ran the mtn for a season as a demonstration site for their manmade snow product which is made at the base and then blown up the mtn through the pipes. Basically, they have a ice cube maker at the base and fatter hoses to blow the ice through the lines to the trail. I think it failied miserably. As for the front end loader idea. To move just one acre ft of snow up the mtn you need to make 1613 trips assuming you have a 3cubic yard bucket (43560sq ft/9yds/3yd bucket) . Good luck with that idea.

Winter arrives midnight friday. Looks like its going to stick around too for at least a solid week. Whew-hooo!

random_ski_guy wrote:

Hey Bushmogulmaster, thanks for the insights on PSI and that magic number, 139k gallons of water per acre foot of snow. Good stuff. Mike 451, surf the internet for info on the prior owners of tenney mtn in NH. A company from japan ran the mtn for a season as a demonstration site for their manmade snow product which is made at the base and then blown up the mtn through the pipes. Basically, they have a ice cube maker at the base and fatter hoses to blow the ice through the lines to the trail. I think it failied miserably. As for the front end loader idea. To move just one acre ft of snow up the mtn you need to make 1613 trips assuming you have a 3cubic yard bucket (43560sq ft/9yds/3yd bucket) . Good luck with that idea. Winter arrives midnight friday. Looks like its going to stick around too for at least a solid week. Whew-hooo!

If memory serves Tenney wasn't owned by the Sno-Magic people and the system worked but it was Tenney's financial problems that caused them to sell the system to a small stadium in Alabama, Henry Aaron Stadium, something like that. The thing about this system was that they could make snow in summer, which they did. I seem to remember that they made a small strip of snow and people did ski on it in July, about 3/4 years ago. Going by memory here so I could have the facts alittle mixed up.

Dan Egan was involved and soon after he came to the Bush. Don't know if he is still here but would know all the details. Havn't heard anything else about it since then.

Did a quick search but all the links were cached out, just could find this
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:gnXobAM1-rwJ:www.tenneymtn.com/710103.html+snow+magic+tenney+mtn&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2

The year they were doing it was one of the hottest summers.

They were hoping to keep some sort of park, but ended with just a tubing run.

I have seen a pic of a deer crossing the tubing run, in August, from their website.

I believe part of the idea was also to have tubing underground to cool that area. That just had to be expensive!

Still, the reason I was checking was that I had heard they were planning on summer skiing,and if they were actually open... I was going.